In an exclusive KTTH interview, Minnesota Congresswoman and 2012 presidential candidate Michele Bachmann talked to host Ben Shapiro about some of the most pressing issues facing America today.
Recently, Bachmann has taken aim at weaknesses in the security of the Obamacare Healthcare.gov website, discovering that a Russia-allied nation may have built a large portion of the site, exposing millions of Americans’ to identity theft.
Bachmann is also standing firm against a new push for immigration reform, a plan that would fundamentally change America for the worse, and deal a blow to the already-hobbled job market.
What Bachmann has to say about both these issues is shocking and scary – but necessary reading heading into an important election year.
Ben Shapiro: There was a story we were playing earlier where a man in Virginia had information stolen by fake healthcare providers. What do you see as the intelligence threats via Obamacare?
Michele Bachmann: Quite simply it appears that Belarus, which is a nation friendly with the Soviet Union, may have a subcontracting contract to build a part of Obamacare.
One year ago, Belarus was able to come into the U.S. and reroute a significant portion of Internet traffic out to Belarus. They did that for one month. What’s worrisome is that Belarus – you might as well say the Russians – they were able to attach code to the Internet traffic that came back into the U.S., so there could be technically back doors so Russia would have an ability to come into U.S. Internet systems.
If the subcontractors that were building the Healthcare.gov disaster of a website were from Belarus, AKA Russia, you can bet that they put back doors into that software system. That means they could have access to millions of Americans’ sensitive private data.
Under Obamacare, all Americans will have sensitive data in a hub. It isn’t just your healthcare information or just your insurance information, it’s all of your employment information – your employment history, your income; it also includes your IRS returns.
This is absolute recklessness. If the Obama administration allowed a contractor from Belarus to put this together, I’m calling on the Obama administration to shut down Healthcare.gov, to run a thorough check and make sure we don’t have malware in the system.
Shapiro: Has the Obama administration actually acknowledged that this vulnerability exists, or are they trying to stonewall it?
Bachmann: [A government worker] contacted the Department of Health and Human Services to tell them about this problem, and the Obama administration immediately recalled this intelligence report. So, I asked the intelligence community, why was this report recalled? None of them could give an answer. What’s jaw dropping, not one of them was aware of this issue of Belarus. This happened one year ago that they rerouted Internet traffic.
We have quotes from a Russian radio station; here’s the quote ‘the American DHHS is one of our clients’ and ‘we are helping Obama complete his insurance reform.’
So we have the Russians taking credit for writing the software in Obamacare and the U.S. intelligence community says they don’t know anything about it?
Shapiro: The Obama administration is spinning the [Congressional Budget Office] report saying it’s not a big deal that we’re going to lose the equivalent of 2.5 million jobs because of Obamacare, saying that, after all, [the workers] were just suffering from job lock. What do you make of that argument?
Bachmann: Well, it’s bogus, No. 1. They have to spin it any way they can. Think of how callous that is. The only reason they’re working is to have health care? Where are they going to get health care now? It’ll be out of some government dependency. They’re going to need some type of dependency to stay home. This is not good when the [government] makes it easier to not work than work.
Shapiro: This is what I fear. What I fear here is there are a lot of Republicans and conservatives celebrating the CBO report as the beginning of the end for Obamacare; I think it’s the beginning of the beginning for Obamacare because when you make people dependent, far too often it seems like they buy into that option.
Bachmann: There’s nothing to cheer about. This is a very bleak assessment. Today we have the lowest labor force participation rate in 30 years. Our population hasn’t gone down in the last 30 years. And we know in very few years, another 2.5 million people are going to leave the workforce. The people who are getting hurt are young people, people who need a full time job. They don’t want just a job they want a career. There are many baby boomers that plan to work beyond age 65. They want to enjoy a good high-paying career. Whether you’re at the young end or older end of the work scale, people want good jobs. They’re not available in this economy. It’s getting increasingly more difficult. That’s part of Obama’s legacy. He is hollowing out the workforce.
Shapiro: Some of the senior-level House Republicans are confident they’re going to push ahead with some sort of immigration plan. What are you hearing on Capitol Hill? Is it a good idea?
Bachmann: It’s a terrible idea. We have about 7 million Americans that are looking for employment right now. Our problem is not a lack of workers to do jobs. You have many people who would love to work, but there just aren’t jobs. For us to have to open up our boarders would change the dynamic of the U.S. forever.
If these were conservative Republicans coming here illegally, the last thing Obama would do is seek to give amnesty, citizenship, and legal voting status to the people coming into the country.
If you look at Hispanics today, 77 percent respond that they believe in big government and like big government. Fifty-five percent of Asians say they believe in big government, they like big government.
It isn’t the conservative Republican immigration policy that immigrants don’t like, it’s our stance on fiscal conservatism, the Constitution, patriotism, the fact that we believe in limited government and personal responsibility.
It’s a real philosophical divide. From a political perspective, it’s a political suicide mission to be on the side of amnesty. Immigration isn’t wrong, it has to be done by the rule of law, and then assimilating them into our country.
One thing I’ve advocated a long time is to get rid of this mindless idea that if someone has a baby in the U.S. and the parents are illegal aliens, the baby should be given automatic status as an American citizen. Mexico doesn’t do that and Honduras doesn’t do that. We should only give citizenship status to a baby born to legal American citizens.
Shapiro: What is the motivation of the people in Congress who are pushing it on the right?
Bachmann: A lot of big businesses, including [Mark] Zuckerberg from Facebook and [Eric] Schmidt, the CEO at Google, and George Soros, they want a ready supply of cheap low cost labor; they want to increase the number of H-1B visas. And you have many multinational corporations where the corporations aren’t looking out for the nation’s best interests. These are globalists and globalists want open borders because they don’t have an identity with the U.S. Their main allegiance is to the dollar and the bottom line for their corporation. It doesn’t’ matter to them what the cost is to America.
Shapiro: What do you make of the Obama administration’s policies with regard to Syria, Iran, and around the Middle East?
Bachmann: It’s clueless and it’s foolish. I’ve made multiple trips to the Middle East. World leaders are looking at us and shaking their heads saying, ‘We don’t recognize the U.S. anymore, we don’t think you understand who your allies are, and we don’t think you understand who the enemies are.’ They see we are hollowing out our military and we are taking the side of the wrong team every time.
This is the most anti-Israel administration we’ve ever had since the modern state of Israel reestablished itself in 1948. This is an anti-Israel president. If you look at not only the rhetoric but also the actions, everything president Obama has done is to lift up the Islamic agenda.
That’s why we as members of Congress, this is the time when we need to show our friendship and allegiance with Israel. We have to stand with Israel. If there’s going to be a boycott of Israel, then we need to boycott the boycotters. I’m going to introduce legislation that would do exactly that. We’re going to boycott the boycotters.
Shapiro: Michelle Bachmann, you really are a warrior for conservatism and American values.
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